

The estate fell to the Colonel’s infant grand daughter but due to financial pressure it was sold in 1784 to her uncle by marriage, Alexander Menzies principal Clerk of Session, who moved there with his family and carried out many improvements on the property[6], possibly including extending it to include the front of the house (given the crest on the fire place in the drawing room is Menzies), and back parts which are now derelict. His daughter and heiress Elizabeth married Mr Joseph Stewart of Foss (who added Menzies to his name to inherit) and their son John Menzies succeeded to Chesthill, on his mother’s death sometime before 1824, moving there from Duneaves near Fortingall.
‘In his younger days he lived a somewhat loose and dissolute life, but in his later years he settled down to more orderly habits and wielded considerable influence in the affairs of the county.’
A Miss Christian Stewart took a case to the House of Lords in 1832[7], “of seduction and for damages” for her and her two children, where she presented a letter dated 25th March 1826, saying “Christy – You and I having lived together as man and wife for some time, I hereby declare you to be my lawful wife, in the event of a child being born in consequence of the present connexion betwixt us; I am yours truly, John Menzies, of Chesthill.” John defended that he had written the letter in 1828 to provide a reason why he could not marry a Miss Macdougall whom he had proposed to in 1827. The Lords concluded “the evidence no doubt proves the conducto of the defender to have been highly discreditable to him… but that circumstance cannot give a different legal character to a written document … to treat that document as a Scotch contract of marriage, nor does it establish per se the title of the pursuer to damages as for seduction”. John Stewart Menzies seems to have got off lightly, but did take some responsibility for her as in 1851 Christy was living in the farmhouse at Dericambus, aged 67.
Other records show a more public spirited side of John Menzies “a true hearted Gaelic-speaking Highlander of the old stamp” who gave the community “a feu for church, manse, and school, at Cambusvrachan”[8].
The 1851 census shows John Menzies, his brother Joseph, five domestic staff, and six outdoor staff in residence at Chesthill, and by this time, Christian Stewart was living at the estate farm, Dericambus, aged 67.
John Menzies died in 1868 and the house was then owed by William Stewart Menzies “whom I have often seen in his picturesque Highland costume, wielding his fly-rod and cleverly avoiding the many obstacles growing on the high bank. He never would try the minnow, preferring, even in January, to take his chance with a fly.”[9] At times the house was occupied by tenants including the Stainton Family whose game book is copied in the gun room, until Mr Menzies’s trustees sold it to Sir Donald Currie in 1903. A Letting advert from this period mentions “Red Deer occasionally visit the grounds”.

Chesthill House taken sometime before a fire in the back parts in 1920s, after which it was left to go to ruin.
The estate was inherited by their son, Major George Leslie Keith Wisely, winner of a Military Cross in the First World War. In 1944 Major Wisely sold Culdaremore for £2,500, but retained the fishing rights. Then in 1947, he sold Chesthill to his uncle, Donald Jervis Molteno of Glenlyon House, moved to Kent, but decided they had made a mistake and in 1949 bought back the southern element and the house. Chesthill Estate was thus split in two and became North and South Chesthill. Jarvice Molteno kept North Chesthill, which is now owned by his descendants, the Riddell family.

Leslie and Doris Wisely in the drawing room, May 1955, with a Turner on the wall behind
South Chesthill Estate (and Chesthill House) was sold for the second time by the Wiselys in 1956 and bought by the Roy family (who had made their money from tea). The Roys were family friends of the parents of artist Leesa Sandys-Lumsdaine, who in the late 1950s was commissioned to paint the murals in the Games Room. They feature John Fisher, the wonderful Ghillie who served at South Chesthill from 1933 – 1980 (except for a short break in Kent with Major Wisely). They also feature Jimmy an ex pit pony who was last used in 1970 for taking deer and grouse off the hill. Some touch-ups to the murals towards the west end were done by local artist Alan Hayman in the 1990s due to damage caused by a leak.

Mr Peter Roy died in 1978 and Major-General Charles Ramsay bought South Chesthill. He later bought neighbouring Inverinain, so making an estate of some 7,000 acres and roughly 6 miles of fishing on which a record 105 salmon were caught in 2012.
The estate is now owned by his son Charlie. Notable developments since then have included the 2015 refurbishment of Chesthill House, including adding four new bathrooms and central heating in all rooms, the 2019 replacement of the Ben Lawyers hill fence, and the 2024 acquisition of The Fortingall, to save it from closure, upgrade it, reunite it with its old fishing at Culdaremore, and re-energise it back to full opening hours.
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[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Lyon
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Campbell_of_Glenlyon
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Campbell_of_Glenlyon
[4] http://www.perthshirediary.com/html/day0404.html
[5] http://www.electricscotland.com/history/glenlyon/chapter26.htm
[6] http://www.fisherfamily.me.uk/places/fortingall.html [7] Reports of Cases Heard and Decided in the House of Lords on Appeals and Writs of Error: During the Sessions 1831[-1846], Volume 8
[8] Reminiscences and reflections of an Octogenerian Highlander, D. Campbell, 1910
[9] Things I have Seen Whilst Fishing, Philip Geen 1904.